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Topic by Freemount Farm

February 26, 2010 10:55AM

I am almost 26 weeks in, I have been mucking stalls the whole way.I stopped riding early on, mostly due to the weather.
Anyone want to share there stories? I hope to keep active in the horses right up til the delivery but we shall see.

Reply by Noodle

February 26, 2010 12:12PM

That is good that you plan on keeping active, it will be better for both your baby and you. Even just getting out for a brisk 30 minute a day walk helps keep the blood fresh and the energy levels up.

I worked in a stable until my 6th month- and would have continued on despite having an extremely large stomach, but i was in a car accident had to stop.
I still remember my second day of labour (13days overdue) I went out to bring my colt in for the night and was feeling the 'bowling ball' being fully engaged and I thought how uncomfortable that made walking, until I had a contraction and had to grab hold of the colts neck for support. That was way worse. Normally he would prance and spook on the way to the barn, but that day he was slow and steady! I had someone take over his care after that day as I had a THIRD day of labour which was way too intense for anything more than walking across the room or shifting positions. Thankfully labour did not last much longer and I went to the hospital to have bebe in about the same amount of time it would take a mare to foal out. Ive always been a wait-until-the-last-minute kind of person ;)

I attribute my stamina during labour and birth, recovery, and the health of my daughter to staying outdoors and being active during pregnancy. She was a good size, pink all over, stong as football player (had shoulders like one too), and her neck muscles were strong from the start.

You can make your plans, but don't get depresed if things don't go the way you want. Som many focus on the what wasnt's rather than the what was'.

Wait unil you have to pick out feet with a big belly! so much fun! :)

Reply by Rachel

February 26, 2010 12:49PM

Keep doing what your doing and listen to your body :) I was super fortunate to have 2 wonderful pregnancy's and during the 1st was working 6 days a week at a TB breeding farm with over 80 horses. I was in the best shape of my life those days and I honestly think it helped so very much through pregnancy, delivery and bouncing back afterwards. I gained a grand total of 14lbs but measured perfectly week to week (what I wouldn't do to have that pregnate body back right about now ;) ) I continued to ride lightly and delivered 4 days overdue "natural" a perfect little baby girl who weight 6lb9oz. At the farm, they forced me to put my feet up when my due date came around and the Farm manager joked how he had no intentions of "foaling me out" so to get home and rest. I did take them up on the offer to drive the tractor instead of being back on the hay wagon that summer as we brought in the usual 5000 bales ;) I also did get a nice nip to the belly which left quite the nasty bruise at 38 weeks while holding a yearling colt for his daily bath....no more nippy colts for me to hold after that.
Baby #2 was delivered Dec 25th so I wasn't riding too much but spent the summer in the saddle on the steady eddy's and doing all that needed to be done at home with my crew of about 8, while chasing a 2 year old around. Both times as soon as the first contraction hit, I was out topping up the water trough and tossing out extra hay LOL! The thought of being stuck in a hospital bed isn't my most favorite thing. My best advice to you is ENJOY every second of both your pregnancy, delivery and new baby. Times to treasure for sure. When they say it goes fast - no joke!

Reply by Freemount Farm

February 26, 2010 04:02PM

They say I'm having a girl, when did you introduce your kids to the horses?
Iam working at a 4 horse farm as well as mine own horses but mine live outside and only come in to eat grain, so my stalls arent to bad to do.

My doctor is not horsey so she didnt want me to ride or do anything with the horses, but they seem to understand they have to go a little slower right now.I think my dog knows something is different she fallows me everywhere now and wants to always lay on my belly.

My baby is breech and has always been breeched, I'm ready for a c-section if need be, has anyone had one? How long did it take you to get back to doing chores?

Reply by Adveristy

February 26, 2010 04:53PM

I did a 50 mile endurance ride at about 4 months and kept riding til 6 months.Cleaned my barn and cared for 15 horses til I was due. I actually sold and trailered a horse the day before I delivered.
The nurse called the day after I came home from the hospital to check in. My husband had to tell her I was in the barn, there was silence on the phone!
Keep busy, look after yourself. Enjoy!!!
They grow very fast!!
My little girl will be 3 in April I'd do it again in a heartbeat!
She has 3 ponies already! Gives me a good reason to buy more [like I need a reason!]

Reply by Noodle

February 26, 2010 04:59PM

your still way early to be worrying about breech. google 'spinning babies' when your at the end of your term if your baby is still breech.
I was prepared to naturally bbirth my breech, but she flipped 1wk before due date (dont ask me how she managed)

Reading other's stories make feel proud of the strength in women :)

Reply by MBRA518

February 26, 2010 06:10PM

I rode until about 3-4 months. Kept doing regular barn work until I delivered - though DH and I share the barn work anyway - and near the end he was doing most of the cleaning out - I delivered in December - so ti was getting icy and such anyway.

Warning – TMI for the benefit of FF in the next paragraph ;)

DD was breech all the way through - she would not turn - we tried everything, I had a midwife so all the natural options were tried as well – including Chiro, the exercises, considered the doc manually moving her - but Doc even said she was too tight in there - so a CS was scheduled - but Devin had other plans - and she came 1.5 weeks before the scheduled CS - 3 weeks+1 day before my EDD. My labour was very easy - didn't realize it was in labour until my water broke - active labour for 45 min in the truck to Markham was not fun though – I wouldn’t recommend labouring while strapped in a seat ;) I delivered feet before I was in a room - they considered allowing me to go natural - but couldn't tell for sure if I was fully dilated... so she was born CS - and due to complications I will not be able to have a VBAC.... but it wasn't really that bad, and another rare issue where my platelets were attacking DD's would not make it a good idea to deliver natural anyway - so I'm ok with that. It was a good thing they did not allow me to go naturally - as the reason she was breech was because the cord was wrapped all around her and they would have had to cut the cord before she was fully delivered, which could have been scary to say the least. She was small at 5lb6oz - but very strong from the start and a super start breast feeder. She's a feisty 13 month old now.

I was up and about pretty good with in a week (walking before that obviously ;) I can't remember when I was back in the barn - probably a couple weeks - my biggest issue was wicked muscle pain in my side abs - because of over doing it - so my advice is to take it easy for the first 2 weeks if you can – a few of my friends experienced that same ab pain after a CS – and we all were overdoing it.

We introduced Devin to the horses early - I use baby carriers (I turned into a hippy and don’t even own a stroller – LOL – they are useless around the barn anyway) so I was helping clean stalls and feed with her probably around 2-3 months. She LOVES horses - pats noses and giggles when they breath on her and such - she will be on her pony this summer - obviously just being lead and held on - but she gets such a huge kick out of riding toy horses and her saddle on your knee that I don't see the point in waiting.

Reply by Sixhorses

February 26, 2010 06:25PM

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh,

You guys are so GROSS! ;)

sixhorses/sixdogs/ no kids :)

Reply by qhcuttingirl

February 26, 2010 07:30PM

hahaha...no kids here either Sixhorses...6 horses (soon to be 8), 2 dogs, 1 cat, 1 fish and a boyfriend (common-law technically I believe)...anyways, have a story...about me I guess

this is when my mom was pregnant with me...she and my dad had pigs and mom cleaned their stalls and looked after the piglets right up until she had me...said she had to *roll* over the tops of the pens...and at about 8 1/2 months pregnant...they were teaching a pony to pull a cart and everytime the shafts would hit its side, it would kick out...well, mom got it right in the belly...we joke that's where I got the *kick-start* to horses...my sister says I was kicked in the head, but mom assures me it was in the butt...

I was a c-section baby...I guess the cord was wrapped around my neck (not tightly I hope...could explain a few *quirks* about me.....) but the day mom was scheduled for a c-section, they did another ultrasound and found the cord was not around my neck anymore...but they went ahead and cut mom open anyways...I was only a little early...couple weeks I think...7 lbs 7 oz...1 thing though that mom did say about having a c-section...they cut through everything...EVERYTHING...bowels, intestines...said it was about 3 days for *everything* to work normally again...she also said that if *everything* wasn't going to work normally soon, that they were going to MAKE IT WORK...hint, hint......

so ya, good luck to you...lol.... ;)

Reply by crazyacres5

February 26, 2010 08:01PM

Congrat's Freemont, so happy to hear a new baby coming.. i have 3 myself, they are almost 19, 17 and 9.. and for each of those pregnancies we were Dairy Farming as well I always had my horse operation on the side, so I was busy, busy from 5 in the morning till late in the night sometimes, but it was a time in my life when I felt the very best. Now keep in mind that I had stopped throwing bales and heavy work , but I didnt not stop riding until I was about 7 1/2 months, I wasnt endurance racing in Algonquin by any means, but I bareback rode around a few hundred acres at home reguarily, with caution and always with my husband, I truely belive it was a big part of quick on your feet recovery after baby is born, and I only gained an extra 18 lbs. at my heaviest...and as far as when to indroduce you baby to horses, I not only had everyone of my babies in a modified baby swing hanging on the milk line in between 2 heffers, morning and night swinging as we milked, but I rode with my babies in sling carriers form the time they were about 1 month old forward, as they got older, and could hand on from behind me, they did that, and always rode with them on my trusted Canadian mare "Gracie" didnt take chances, but rode weekly... When we where busy in the barn , i used to put them in the car seat in the horses mangers as well !!!! our mares would eat their hay , inches from them !!! I walked by once and found Quinton's little 6 month old fist, up a Belgium mare named Kates nostral as far as he could put it, she stood like a trooper.. but I have children today , who are excellent horsemen and understand them as well as human's...

Just a note on a little trick that we have used for years that came from my Grandma and Grampy and all the Ole Boys about determining the sex of a foal or baby you are carrying, it has worked for us about 95 % of the time and I do it regularily !!! take a golden band, your wedding ring or your husbands, put it on a tread, as if you are threading a needle, about 18 inches long, stand at your mares side or if its for you , lay on your back,, run the tread over your pregnant belly , back and forth at the side and gently pull it up directly over your belly and hold your hand dead still, if its the mare, run it along the side of their belly several times back and forth and then straight up over their back and bring your hand to a dead still in the middle of their back.. if the needle begins to swing in a big circle..its a girl !!!!...if it swings back and forth .... its a boy !!!!, worked for me in everyone of my kids , and most of my foals.. !!! Good Luck

Reply by Gruff Pastures

February 26, 2010 08:35PM

I've blacked most of it out.

I did chores right through every time cuz it's good for both of you, and you won't put on so much weight.

Also (IME) if you are fretful and anxious about every little thing, you will have a fussy baby. If you just chill and are calm and relaxed, she will be too.

:)

Reply by Noodle

February 26, 2010 08:55PM

oh my MBRA! They had to pull the baby back in and out your stomach incision?

That happened with a friend of mine..she was determined to have a natural birth (but she HATES pain and is such a wuss lol- she is laughing with me, I can call her that) so after many hours of screaming and crying and not relaxing the head comes out (a very small head) and that was it, babe would go no farther so quick as wink she was rushed to the OR, knocked out cold and they pulled baby back up and out through incision. baby was only 6lbs, but I guess size does not matter.

No worries though Freemount, I hear that is rare!

Reply by MBRA518

February 26, 2010 09:05PM

LOL QHcuttinggirl.... they don't cut through intestines... just ab muscles, and such (but that's plenty) but the other 'issue' is true (fortunately it wasn't for me) but it's common to all surgery. And interesting info from my midwife - 7 out of 10 babies are born with the cord around their neck - it is common to have to move it out of the way during birth.

To FF - I would highly recommend finding a Chiro that does the baby turning 'protocol' basically they adjust the pelvis to allow more room for the babe to turn - it has the highest success rate of any of the baby turning methods.

Reply by xine

February 26, 2010 11:13PM

lely was a c-section.
they lasered me open, didn't cut any muscles, just stretched them.

birth was like the first 'alien' movie. i was awake, but numbed from the head down.
they asked if i wanted to watch.
i said NO.
they lifted my head. the alien came out of my middle, and we both screamed.
maybe that's why i still scream at her. lol

scar now is about 5" horizontal right at the top of my hair down there.

i got better pretty fast, but i didn't have horses back then (19 years ago), so i have no useful info on how soon you can do farm stuff.

xine ;)

Reply by stonehedge

February 27, 2010 11:29AM

Freemount Farms ... Congrats.....
THese days C-sections are fairly routine and you can choose to be awake with a nerve block or under a general anaesthetic ....much better for you and babe to be awake if the procedure is necessary..... Breeches can turn right up until until the first few days.... They do cut through skin, adipose(fat), muscle and ligaments.... THey displace, but do not cut into, unless they are making errors--- bowels and intestines.... they must remove and set aside any bowel that is in the way of the uterus and they will often cut the uterine wall horizontally when the Section is not emergent to ensure Mom could have a VBAC. The recovery time is longer obviously you have more pain and need more time to heal but within 3 months you should be totally back to your pre-procedure self in every way.... it does take about 6-8 weeks to heal after any abdominal surgery and with the hormone rush of new baby that is why I said 3 months.
I hope you have a safe and healthy delivery.
Follow your heart as far as what you should and should not do.... we all know what is right and following your intuition can never take us down the wrong path.


Reply by Adveristy

February 27, 2010 12:18PM

crazyacres5 that is funny you hung the sling on the milk line!
We hung the car sit from the beam in the barn. Evereytime Hails got a little fussy I'd give her a little swing. Man did she sleep good after being in the barn all morning! Not sure my mother inlaw was to impressed!
Everyone said your life changes, which it does. You just learn to go a little slower, but it doesn't mean you stop what you love doing!

Reply by crazyacres5

February 27, 2010 01:07PM

LOLO. So true Adversity

when your busy farmers of any kind, a new baby only changes the pace and approach you take to daily life.. My husband was at the dump doing a garbage run and seen a whind up baby swing " Broken" so he took the seat and rod's attached to it, welded S hooks on the top of the rod's so we could just hook it on the milk line in between Emma and Ella, and like you said, everytime someone walked by we gave him a shove, once and awhile Emma would try giving his foot a lick with her big old wraspy tongue on the way by her head ..LOLO , Thank God our kids were real little pack and go characters, because they ended up sound asleep in wooden crates on the cap tractor floor at all hours of the nights harvesting corn, sleeping in mangers, and honestly all 3 were very content healthy baby and toddlers. My Mom used to say they were just too damn tired at the end of the day to be fussy !!!! nd now that we have Quinton's little 5 month old daughter here in his custody with us, she's every bit as good a little" Tag Along " as he was, she's had many a good sleep in Thunder and Uncle Jimmy's mangers, she heads out the door with her Dad ,with a bottle in his coat pocket, extra diaper in her snowsuit, and away they go !!!!

Reply by Freemount Farm

February 27, 2010 05:29PM

crazyacres5:
My husband is a dairy farmer and he likes your ideas!

Reply by crazyacres5

February 27, 2010 11:50PM

You know Freemount, when I think back to when I had the kids and we were such a busy dairy operation, but my husband worked out as well custom building homes and when the kids came along, we just didnt have time to stop, there are 50 cows morning and night,7 days a week that needed to be milked, another 40 outside, and usually 10- 15 horses that needed hay, grain and corn crops, worked, planted and harvested off, he needed my help daily, so we had no choice but to integrate our babies into that daily rountine, and I've always said that it made them very tolerant and easy to please children. By the time Quinton was 2 1/2, my daughter was born and she moved into the swing on the milk line and Quinton got a brand new plastic wheel barrow and shovel from the Co-Op and it was his greatest thrill to fill it cleaning the calf pen !!! Breakfast for him was a zippy bag full of cheerios and grapes he could eat sitting on milk stoup in the alley way and warm milk from a calf pale !!! So when I see young Mom's today with kids that cant sleep unless its dead quiet, I see my guys sound asleep in that swing with the noisy milk pumps running, calves blatting , they slept like BABIES...and they have to pack up an entire van of play objects to keep their toddlers content, that 20.00 red plastic wheelbarrow and shovel , and a toy John Deer loader tractor they had in the barn, lasted thru all 3 of my guys and provided a million dollars worth of intertainment for them, and many neices and nephews after, a new litter of kittens found in the Mow !!! was almost as good as Christmas.. I dont think there is a right age to introduce your children to livestock, for our kid's, like ourselves, they are just born INTO them.

Reply by FalseImpression

February 28, 2010 12:12AM

I have to laugh at this and wish I could show this to my "DIL". She will not come and visit here because we have a dog (never mind that her parents' house has dogs - well a yorkie and a tiny mutt - and two cats that climb on counters... We had to wash our hands, change our clothes before handling baby (4 months old) last Christmas, were not allowed to kiss the baby, etc. The car is full, full, full of stuff wherever she goes and one of the specs last year at Christmas was "house has to be quiet after 6 pm". Believe me, I put my foot down on quite a few of her requirements. That's probably why she won't come back here. That's fine... as far as I am concerned, Montreal is as close as I want to be to the mother. I am sorry that we don't feel close to our granddaughter, but that's life. I will NOT kiss the floor and say amen to all the stupid requirements of a young mother (a nursing student on top of that). We have raised kids before her and they were healthier too. She would probably faint reading your account. lol. I love it!

Reply by crazyacres5

February 28, 2010 01:29AM

FI, thats so sad, you had to change your clothes and cant kiss the baby !!! she'd nearly flip a nut here then, Quintons baby girl Jewely is only 5 months old, but she heads to the barn with us and has since she came to live us at 5 weeks old !!!! her little life in almost a mirror image of her Dad's.. chores morning and night, she rides on someones lap on the sleighs to go to the back of the farm bringing up firewood , the milkline swing is long gone, but she has a Little tikes swing we rescued from the Salvation Army, hanging the rafters in front of the Draft team, that she regularily falls asleep slumped over in, if we cant be in the house with her, she has to come with us, and honestly, being a Grandmother at 44 years old was the last thing in my mind, and nor was I impressed at the thought, we were so shuck up as a family at the surprise of her birth, then the turmoil of her Mom insisting to adopt her out and when Quinton wouldnt let the baby go and sign off on that, or go play house with her, she tried to keep the baby from him, that only lasted until she found out how much work a baby really is, so Jewely has been with us here since 5 weeks and if I'd have known how much fun Grandchildren are, I'd have skipped the kids and went right to Grandparenting LOLOLO.... I'm sure she'll eat Cheerios from her coverall pockets, will drink her fair share of milk from the calf pail with a tin dipper cup too, and if Jewely sucks her little rubber boot off in a gutter of shit and steps down in her sock feet, I can just hand her to her Dad !!!! Germ's and all.

Reply by Adveristy

February 28, 2010 11:27AM

I have had a great chuckle on a Sunday morning with my coffee in hand. Makes me think I haven't done things to off base.Especially when I read the adventures of the Crazyacres5 babies!
Hails has had few cereal/grape in a bag breakfasts!
Poor kid has got more miles on her butt than most adults. We just pack her up head to the next distance ride, auction sale, or wherever, rarely a peep.
Its amazing how farm kids find things to do. Every morning I do chores at an tb farm, Hailey finds it very amusing to walk around the barn with a 5 gallon pail on her head. Of course we all laugh and she thinks she is very smart because of it!
I guess climbing the manure pile wouldn't go over well FalseImpressions.
Hails and cat think it is great fun! With a little snow covering it, is a great man made tobbaganing hill.
They say farm kids are the most healthy, wonder why, lol!!?
I think your grand baby is lucky Crazyacres5!


Reply by Freemount Farm

February 28, 2010 12:21PM

My husband was raised on milk straight from the tank also, he refuses to drink stor bought milk. Says "it tastes bad"
He very very rarely gets sick, we had a few goats get sick with dieases that they can pass to people. I wore gloves/wash my hands etc, my husband didn't. I got the illness, he didn't.
He believes strongly that people disfect way to much and as a result our immune systems are alot lower. I guess he is living proof.


Reply by MBRA518

February 28, 2010 12:34PM

LOL - yup Devin has encountered so much farm and dog dirt already at 13 months - she absolutely loves it when the dog licks her mouth (ummm errrr grosss - but auh it wont hurt her).

I don't usually take her to the barn to feed alone - as you are basically walking into our little herd (no stalls) to feed - and we have one mare that is a bully, but she goes everywhere we do - I babywear so she has slept pretty much everywhere in a carrier on my front or back. I don't believe in keeping everything quiet for sleeping babies - makes them light sleepers IMO.

Reply by FalseImpression

February 28, 2010 01:04PM

My house has never been the cleanest house on the planet, mostly because of the dog (we've always had labs and they shed constantly, so hair is everywhere), but both our kids never had the typical kids' illnesses. They were outside quite a bit, even if we do not have a farm. Lots of dog walking sleeping in a sled!!

One big argument we had last Christmas (08) was the fact we could not just take the baby, had to wash our hands, change our clothes... but when the soother fell out of the baby's mouth and landed on the floor... Mom or Dad would just stick it in their mouths and back into the baby's... So, where is the logic???

I should send her the picture of 3 year old daughter walking through the fresh manure at a farm we stayed at. She was grinning from ear to ear and loving the sound it made!!! Maybe that's why she loves farm life still...

Funny, CrazyAcres, although our son is now 24, that baby also came as a shock to us (and to him!). We were not jumping up and down at the news! It will forever be held against us! Her parents were already buying baby stuff the day after she announced the news.... sigh! At least, they were in Qc and gave them the support needed. No matter what we do or say, it is never good enough or "none of our business". So, I backed off totally and now I am being blamed for not "wanting a relationship with the granddaughter". Sigh. Can't win! DIL does have horses though. They barely get ridden, but once in a while she will go and ride, then put the kid in front of her in the saddle, no helmet... She just has such extremes in her way of handling things. I just keep my mouth shut now. I feel bad for our son who is caught in the middle, wants us to know his daughter, to come and visit... etc.

I think the biggest problem people have now is they cater to the babies' needs too much and change their whole life around them. I did do that too, but we still travelled and did the stuff we wanted to do too.

Reply by Noodle

February 28, 2010 02:31PM

I catered to my daughters every whim and needs as a baby(cause all they need is be held, changed and fed), but still did my own thing too. I agree that babies are very portable.
My sisters (all stay at moms with working partners) were so worried about my parenting skills because I love my freedom. Turns out my kid does too.
Not having a schedule and being able to sleep wherever/whenever has been a huge blessing.
While thier kids fall apart over the smallest things, especially at what should be 'bedtime' at family gatherings, my kid adjusts. It is fantastic to watch her shrug her shoulders when something does not work out and then say 'oh well, thats life' :)
I can take her anywhere, she is very easy going and can take care of herself.

Definately make your kids a part of your life and be flexible. They are what you make them.

Reply by qhcuttingirl

February 28, 2010 05:02PM

okay...was reading some...here's some stuff my mom said she did with me...

when I was a toddler (ages 1-4 probably...she sent me off to kindergarten pretty early...lol) we had dairy cattle, pigs, horses and my dad worked out at a plan...12 hr shifts...so while mom was doing the chores...she used to put me in the grain silo (was empty of course)...because I had to get into EVERYTHING...I was one of those kids that you had to watch ALL THE TIME!...

I remember I was up in the haymow once while mom was milking...so the generator was going...and I had just seen the circus on tv...well, long story short, I put a piece of baler twine around a rafter, another around my throat and stood on a bale...I slipped off...thank god I got my feet back on the bale...but not before slitting my throat ear to ear...so I went back downstairs...mom was in the milk room, turned around...and saw all this blood coming from my throat...I survived...

I was still in diapers apparently and mom couldn't find me one day...we had a 2 story house with one of those big old tv antenna's that went up the side...yup, had crawled up there and was sleeping on the roof...

when I was just a couple days old, my mom had corn to take to the mill...so I was bouncing down the road in one of those back pack thingy's in the tractor while my older sister was on the floor of the tractor...

when they did hay, I used to ride the wagon and fall asleep...they'd pile the hay around me...

my parents had a milk quota and they used to dump the skim milk outside in a hole...well it was July, in the hot sun...and guess where my mom found me?...yup, sitting in the middle of that skim milk...luckily we had a creek running through our place...mom picked me up by the ear and threw me in the creek...man I must've stunk something terrible...

these are just a couple stories I could tell you...yes I was a terrible kid...lol...yes I now know why my mom has greying hair (surprised she doesn't have more)...but I survived...it'll all be okay... ;)

Reply by crazyacres5

February 28, 2010 05:27PM

Freemont, I agree with your husband 100% about the disinfecting too much, I have always said that it has lead to bacteria to has become more aggressive and has lowered the human immune system. An example of this is just 2 weeks ago, Quinton had to take Jewely into the family doctor's for her check-up , weigh in and imunizations, during the appointment the doctor made comment that he hadn't seen Quinton for 6 years !!!! when he had to get a tetnus shot after stepping on a blank with a rusty nail in it !!! and that the entire Crazy Acres Family had the skawniest file folders in his office...

Have we been blessed !! maybe, but I like to think it has a lot to do with life style. My Husband and I were both raised in big farm families, our house had 15 in it most times, it was busy. and clean, but we had no indoor plumbing until I was 11, and even with that , we were so used of using an outhouse, that we werent allowed to use the indoor bathroom during the day, it was for night time and winter only !!! 4 girls slept in one small room and 2 beds, 7 boys shared a big room over the summer kitchen and 3 bed's. my Grandparents and Parents of course had their own rooms, but we never thought anything of it !!! In summer we all bathed at the creek running behind the house nightly like a little Boy Scout troop heading down the path to the river, and in winter , the younger ones all lined up in a row at the kitchen counter and one by one my Mother washed our faces and hands and you moved down the line to Grama and she did your legs and feet and then into clean Pajama's, they washed our hair in a counter pan and on Saturday's you got into the big tub for a full out scrubbing with at least 2 others, that was alot of water the boys had to hand pump outside and heat up to carry to a tub !!! LOLOLO.... Before school every Monday and Friday the older boys carried in all the water for Mom and Grandma to do laundry in an old Gas washer in the summer kitchen, hung it winter and summer, in winter it came off the line to be drapped all over the upstairs around the woodstove pipes criss crossing the bedrooms, and the ladies of my family being good French girls, ironed every single shred of cloth in the house CRISP !!! we all drank from a water pale on the counter with a tin dipper., there was always a mystery layer of sand in the bottom of the water pail !!! we all had the chicken pox and mumps, and if we did catch a cold , it was quickly extinguished with a camphore block pinned around your neck , mustard plaster , and good gulp of Buckley's, most virus's couldnt have survived to friggin drafty cold of the old palce, you could part your hair at every window, there was no Lully Gagging around in the morning in the winter, you put your cloths on under the covers to get dressed and ran for the cookstove in the morning to get a cup of tea on your way to the barn, it was way warmer in the barn, and I swear to God we were the largest consummers of Puffed Wheat in Canada , it wasn't out of being poor by any means, my Dad was a Mechanical engineer for GM and Grandfather put 38 years in Canada Wire and was always a savvy farmer and horse dealer, it was just our way of life.. My Grandparents and Father are gone now, but when we all get together every couple of years from one end of the country to the other, we do nothing but laugh our butts off at the antics of it all, we were so happy and healthy , could we fight with the best of them and fire frozen horse shit at one and another..YOU BET !!! were we always teasing each other, YES.. did we feel disappointment at not always being the best ..YES !! could we accept our failures as well as our acheivements.. YES.. But I feel we were blessed with a sense of devotion to one and another, and I'm certain you will see none of us on Oprah Winfrey complaining about our poor self image.

Of course I'm raising my guy's with hydro and running water, but I try and keep some of those old principles and inconveniences, and live by the saying " you hve to eat a peck of dirt before it will kill you !!! Does anyone know what the hell a peck of dirt is ??? LOLOLO I know I must of ate it..

Reply by FalseImpression

February 28, 2010 06:46PM

qhcuttinggirl. quote: "we had a 2 story house with one of those big old tv antenna's that went up the side...yup, had crawled up there and was sleeping on the roof... "

we had a cottage which was 2 story high on the side w/ the tv antenna. One day, I could not find my 2 1/2 yr old daughter and asked her brother where she was. He just looked up and there she was, in diapers, bare feet, up at the eaves. I quietly asked what she was doing "Feeling the roof"... I asked her to "please come down"... then I almost killed her!!! lol


Reply by Freemount Farm

February 28, 2010 07:41PM

When my husband was about 3 or 4, he waited til his mom fell asleep and decided to go find his dad who was out in the field, baling straw. He says it was a pretty good distance between the house and the field his dad was in. He also went in the dogs crate and ate dog food.

When I was 3 a brought in a mature stallion from the field, pass mares into the barn.

That been said I asked my husband if we could get a crib with a lid..LOL

Reply by Noodle

February 28, 2010 07:43PM

on the dirt.... I was just reading an interesting thread and linked articles about eating dirt to restore gut balance, hahaha. They recommend certified organic potting soil mixed in with a glass of water.
To be honest I've considered trying it just to see if I notice any changes healthwise. These things makes me curious to see if they are true or quakery.

Reply by SavingGrace

February 28, 2010 08:16PM

One baby is (jinxing myself here) EASY. :) I have been totally blessed - or have a shamrock out my hoop- with a cool little dude who we take everywhere! He was an emergency C-section as he decided to take one last look back at what he was leaving and bingo. Head got stuck sideways. Some sketchy moments there when his heart stopped a couple of times... :S but he got hacked out pretty fast...
I rode up till 8 months and only stopped because I grew a huge hemorrhoid in like, seconds. It was so bad it put me into early labour and I had to go in to emerg. That was fun. :P I named it Mr Potato Head.

The theory that if you are laid back, the baby will be laid back is a pretty good one. I was VERY relaxed and laid back and so Liam turned out to be a pretty mellow little dude so far. Yeah he has a temper, but for the most part... not a bad kid!

He will also drop food on the floor and I let him eat it. :) Heck, dirt in normal amounts will definintely keep you healthier. Hands down, scientifically proven.

However, I too want a crib with a lid cause I don't want to bother with a big kids bed when the time comes. Heehee!

Reply by crazyacres5

February 28, 2010 08:41PM

Found it Folks.. Dont know why I didnt look this up before, I heard it enough times through out my childhood and have said it mine a good many times.. A PECK of dirt.. is an old measurement standard for products of dry volume equaling 8 Quarts , or 1 quarter of a bushel.. Hell I know I must of ate that much !!!!!!

Reply by MBRA518

February 28, 2010 10:21PM

LOL they do make 'lids' for cribs - my friend found them when her son starting climbing out of the crib - but refused to sleep in a big boy bed - it's a mesh tent with a zipper opening that clamps to the top of the crib - LOL it worked for them.

Reply by Miss Orangeblossom

February 28, 2010 11:24PM

Exciting!! 26 weeks, 40 will be here before you know it! With a bit of a different perspective here, I am an obstetrics nurse, and I also work with pregnant moms who have to be admitted to hospital for preterm labour or other complications. I think what most people said, listen to you your body, is the best thing, but I would also say, just be careful. You are at a critical time where your baby will live if born now, but of course would be very premature....so just be careful around the horses, and dont forget to take it easy!

I dont know what your health care provider has recommended in terms of when you should stop riding. My coach rode until about 25 weeks doing the 4' jumpers at the CNE with twins....a little risky, but was ok I guess as per her OB. I know other OBs who would say do not ride as soon as you find out you are pregnant. I certainly agree with everyone about staying active...will make labour easier!

Good luck! What an exciting time for you and your family!!!

Reply by Miss Orangeblossom

February 28, 2010 11:28PM

Oh and to add to the c/s part...you will probably be told that 6 weeks is kind of the magic number of being healed. I always tell my patients you will feel better before that, but it important to let your body heal. (no vacuuming, lifting laundry baskets....or cleaning stalls etc.)

Reply by qhcuttingirl

February 28, 2010 11:36PM

I used to eat cat food...dry cat food, let me point out...to the point my mom said I'd been down there with the cats fighting for it...we went to the mill once and the guy said "sorry ma'am, we're all out of that brand right now, how about this one?"...she had to say "no sorry, my daughter doesn't like that kind"...lol

Reply by crazyacres5

March 1, 2010 10:20AM

What is it with kids and dog food !! When my youngest Mason was just a toddler, I gave him a handful of Arrowroot cookies and our Aussie Cattle Dog "Hebby" a couple of Milkbone treats at the same time, I turned my back to put the box's away , come back out and there's Mason sitting on the floor beside her, he's eating the Milkbone that was just in her mouth as she is laying beside him eating the Arrowroot's !!!!

Reply by Adveristy

March 1, 2010 10:23AM

OMG, qhcuttinggirl thats funny and reminds my of my little girl. She used to eat cat and dog food by the fists full. Still finds sweet feed a real treat.
I have to be careful she fills her pockets when I'm not looking. We went to the grocery store after chores one day and she decided it would be fun to pour the contents of her pockets on the floor!!

Reply by qhcuttingirl

March 1, 2010 10:50AM

lol Adveristy...well, I ate cat food...my sister ate flies...and you could have this done to you at the grocery store...

when I was still real little...mom would take me places carrying me...well one day, we're at the grocery store...she had been carrying me and she said we were walking out to the car, and everyone was looking at her...well, I guess I used to play with her buttons and I had undone her shirt practically all the way and she hadn't noticed...

mom used to have to walk down the center of the isle in the grocery store when I was in the cart because once I grabbed a block of cheese and decided to eat it when she wasn't looking...

I was being bad once and my mom grabbed and twisted my ear...I didn't do anything, never cried...until we got up to the cashier and she asked me how I was doing and I started crying and yelled "MY MOM TRIED TO RIP MY EAR OFF!"...yup...I was alittle bugger

oh I got TONS of stories...but here's one about my sister, not me...

my mom noticed that there was this horrendous smell coming from my sister's room where her crib was...she couldn't find anything so she scrubbed it top to bottom...the next day, same thing...couldn't find anything, scrubbed from top to bottom again...so the third day, she just happen to be walking by and caught my sister, get this....pulling poop out of her diaper, taking the top off the post of her crib and stuffing the poop down the posts!!!...LMAO...but in all honesty, that was about the worst thing my sister ever did...she was one of those kids, that you could put her in the corner with a book (when she was old enough to read) and leave her there for like 8 hours and come back and she'd still be there...ME on the other hand...had to wear a harness when we went out places...

I used to like hiding in the middle of the clothes rakes watching my parents run by FRANTICALLY calling and looking for me...until one time mom found me and hoped in there with me and gave me a good lickin'...lol...

like I said, I got TONS of stories...I'm sure I could tell stories that would make ANY woman not want children...lol

Reply by crazyacres5

March 1, 2010 11:52AM

LOLOL QHCutting girl, too funny !!!! kids have an uncanny ability to imbarrass the crap out of the parents !!! a few years ago, my youngest again Mason was with me while I was looking ofr a new watch for my husbands birthday, and he was cranky and acting up in every store we went into, so I told him if he was good for the last stop we would get a Happy Meal at McDonalds !!! I'm at the counter of the Mappin's Jewelery Store, see a couple of watchs and ask to girl to see them, as she bends down to pull them from the showcase, he's leaning on the glass counter with his mouth on his arm , and he makes to most disgusting ,loud fart sound of his arm !!!! She stood up quick, I was stunned and looked at him and said.. Mason that was rude and not nice !!! that little buggar looked at me with the most straight sober face and said " Oh Mommy ,you farted !!! but its Okay if you say excuse me !!! I nearly dropped dead, and when I said to him, thats not funny Mason, he held that sober look at me and said " all you have do is say excuse me " you should have seen the look on that womans face, first off she thought I did do it, and then that I was lying !!! I bought the watch and on the way out the door, I was fuming mad with him, all across the parking lot , I'm telling what big shit he's in and he's laughing, thought it was really funny, and then he said to me," next time I'm with Daddy at Tim Hortons, I'm going to play that trick on him "....... I told him it was a wonderful idea, no need for punishment from me , he would certainly get his butt warmed up later with his Dad !!!!

Reply by MBRA518

March 1, 2010 12:57PM

ROTHLMAO - Mental note to never let Devin read anything of these LOL.

Reply by FalseImpression

March 1, 2010 02:39PM

I guess I dodged the bullet with my kids!!
My DIL would die reading this thread and it would confirm to her that I am "not to be trusted".... I have such weird "cyber" friends... lol

Reply by Freemount Farm

March 1, 2010 04:44PM

Where did you find all your baby stuff? What stores?

Reply by Gruff Pastures

March 1, 2010 06:22PM

Since she's your first, you will likely get loads of stuff from friends and family.
Walmart has a great baby department....you'll find the specialty baby stores very expensive.

Reply by Rachel

March 1, 2010 06:22PM

Babies R Us, Walmart, Childrens Place, Sears(carseat/stroller combo). I'll send u an e-mail Freemount as I have some cute baby girl stuff I "think" I can part with. My baby is now 4 and big girl 6...it's taken us quite some time to decide but I'm preaty sure we are "done" ;) I LOVED baby shopping - fun, fun times

Reply by Freemount Farm

March 1, 2010 07:05PM

See thats where I am running into problems, it's been awhile since there was a baby in the family. I know family wants to buy stuff but I don't want to expect they buy something I need and vise versa I don't want to end up with 10 of everything.

I went to Sears today, I didn't see anything on the display floor I liked. I don't like the dark mordern look.

Reply by MBRA518

March 1, 2010 09:18PM

I have a wooden cradle and a swing I can lend you.

I'd recommend looking in to baby carriers beyond the bijorn and the like - they killed me, but I still carry my 13 month old with other carriers - carrier are a life saver for us around the farm.

Reply by MBRA518

March 1, 2010 09:21PM

Oh - was going to post the site for carriers - check out thebabywearer.com

Reply by crazyacres5

March 1, 2010 09:57PM

Carriers are a most if your on the farm, I had a few different ones , side slings, front carriers and back pack style ones, wish I still had them as Jewely will be in a bigger one soon, but as far as clothing goes, some may not agree ,but I learned very quickly that I could buy 3- 4 outfits from Sears or Wally World, and have them look like crap after 2 washings, or part with the same 40.00 and buy a baby or toddlers Root's set, Old Navy or GAP and have it wear like new thru 3 kids and still get handed off to a friend. Some of Quintons little Root's hoodies and Jogger's went from him to his sister to younger Neices and Nephew's. I'm also the Salvation Armies most loyal customer, we have a big main depot Sally Ann warehouse here, its on my regular weekly stop, get some awseome finds there.

Reply by Freemount Farm

March 1, 2010 10:04PM

I'm going to OLEX tomorrow and I'll have to stop at the John Deere store. Hubby is a big JD fan and they have lots of baby stuff there.

Reply by Freemount Farm

March 1, 2010 10:04PM

I'm going to OLEX tomorrow and I'll have to stop at the John Deere store. Hubby is a big JD fan and they have lots of baby stuff there.

Reply by MBRA518

March 1, 2010 10:56PM

CA5 - I can hook you up with carriers If you want. I make asian style carriers you can use on front or back. FF too if you are interested.

Reply by crazyacres5

March 1, 2010 11:04PM

MBRA18 I would be very interested in that, like I said , when mine were little I had a variety of carriers around the farm and for different ages, but after Mason 9 years ago, I unloaded all my baby stuff to expecting Mom's at our Teen Pregnancy Clinic here in town, except for handmade things like wooden craddles and such made by my Father , that my Granddaughter is sleeping in now, never heard of an Asian Carrier, but would love to see one...

Reply by SavingGrace

March 2, 2010 09:36AM

Freemount,I would SERIOUSLY wait till you are done with the showers etc. TRUST ME. You will get some much stuff its unreal. I had virtually NOTHING until I was 9 months then had the shower season and ended up having to buy almost nothing for a while. :) Its amazing what you get. Then, you can plan what to buy after you go through the stuff you get from family/friends. It will save you a TON of money too.

I have a WHOLE ROOM of baby clothing that Liam has either outgrown or never worn. I can't give any of it up yet cause I don't know if I will have any more (right now I am of the opinion that one does NOT mess with perfection and I should leave it at that lol!)

Good luck!

Reply by MBRA518

March 2, 2010 01:51PM

My carriers look a little different than this - but work the same
[www.babyhawk.com]

I'll bring one with us when Dad finally gets up here to come see Cinder (weather is holding that up a bit)

Reply by FalseImpression

March 2, 2010 05:04PM

and you know... you can register at Baby R Us or other places, just like you register for weddings...

Reply by crazyacres5

March 2, 2010 05:46PM

Those are awesome carriers !!! how much do they retail for ??

Reply by MBRA518

March 2, 2010 07:03PM

Mine retail at the Cuddly Bunny for $75 - but I can do the HJ folks a deal ;)

The baby hawk typically retails for about $100.

Now that I'm home from work - here's a pic of some of mine
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*Edited to make the links clickable*
GP



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Reply by crazyacres5

March 2, 2010 08:57PM

They are great, I will definatly be taking one, and I'm going to show these pics to a freind of ours that is expecting in April... do you still have my home email , if so we'll figure out how to ship and Im going to leave pattern up to you, I'll send you a Picture of the lovely baby Jewely and you can choose.. Thanks, excited to try it out in the barn.

Reply by Freemount Farm

March 2, 2010 09:31PM

can you make them in john deere pattern?

Reply by MBRA518

March 2, 2010 11:16PM

I can do whatever pattern you like :-)

Heading to the fabric store tomorrow - I'll look for some cute farm prints.

I already have a bucking horse/rodeo print on burgundy.

I'll e-mail you CA5

Reply by crazyacres5

March 3, 2010 09:26AM

Great !!! Rodeo Print would be very appropriate as her Daddy took his 3rd. championship belt buckle Gaming, sent you some pics of our Wee Filly Jewely !!!! and I say that because the day she was born, Quinton was on the phone and with a smile from ear to ear ,I asked him "well boy or girl ??? he said , its a Filly Foal...LOLOLOLO

Reply by Noodle

March 4, 2010 10:00PM

My sister has the sling that looks like a big sheet. She wraps it (somehow) around her and baby, and off they go. Pretty neat.
I tried various slings, but neither the little Noodle nor I could get comfortable. I used a stroller after the birth because she was broken, but once she healed and I wasn't afraid of hurting her I carried her everywhere in my arms (and sometimes the stroller).

I love seeing moms and dads slinging thier babies around, its just soo cute!

Reply by Freemount Farm

March 10, 2010 03:24PM

Does anybody know how to sew crib bedding?
I found some fabric I really like but I'm no good with sewing

Reply by Giantpony

March 10, 2010 03:32PM

I'm not great with sewing either, but I don't think crib bedding is very hard. I know a non sewing friend of mine used some of the ideas and tips from these websites and made some beautiful stuff.
GP


[www.make-your-own-baby-stuff.com]

[www.make-baby-stuff.com]

Reply by crazyacres5

March 10, 2010 08:40PM

If in doubt, definatly call on MBRA18, she know's her stuff around a sewing machine and anything with baby need's.

Reply by MBRA518

March 10, 2010 10:47PM

LOL CA5

I don't think bedding would be that difficult. The sites GP posted are great.

Noodle - that's the type of sling I use most, but I use all kinds. It's been a life saver. Just beware 'bag slings' the ones that are sold through Walmart and babiesrus that look like a purse... they are not safe and babies have died in them - in a similar way as the bucket seat deaths - where the newborn's air way in obstructed when their little chin is pressed into their chest.

Reply by Freemount Farm

March 11, 2010 04:24PM

MBRA518:
Are you willing to make it?
canadianfarmgirl_175@hotmail.com

Reply by MBRA518

March 11, 2010 08:58PM

e-mailed you :)

Reply by crazyacres5

March 12, 2010 02:24PM

Hey Folk's

Just smilin ear to ear , I made arrangements with MBRA18 to make me an Asian Style Carrier for our grandaughter Jewely, let me tell you this , it's been the easiest problem free thing I have ever purchased on the Net. all in 3 days , she sent me material samples to choose from, made the carrier and it arrived at my farm this morning !!! it's ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE, great quality of material and her workmanship and attention to detail is beautiful. I've had many store bought carrier's over the year's for my guy's and this is a far superior product, better price, and handmade, which in my books it way ahead of the pack and soooo cute. She made it with a little kid's Cowgirl print on one side and a Rodeo Bronc print on the other.. will be posting some pics.. If anyone is expecting a baby or has a lovely keepsake gift to buy for a baby, get in touch with her, you'll love it.. Thanks MBRA18

Reply by Noodle

March 12, 2010 03:30PM

Stuff like that makes me want to have another bebe just sos I can have the cute stuff to go with :)

Reply by crazyacres5

March 12, 2010 04:16PM

LOLOL, I know Noodle, I wasn't thinking along the lines of ever having a baby in the household for many year's to come, I was way past all that stuff and in nooooooooo !! hurry to go back to it, but this whole Grandparent thing is awesome, and even with all the turmoil of her birth and then having her here to raise, she's just become such a little treasure to us , I cant imagine not having her here.. She's our wee Puddin !!!

Reply by MBRA518

March 12, 2010 07:28PM

So glad you are happy with it CA5!!!! Can't wait to see pictures!

Reply by Sixhorses

March 12, 2010 08:05PM

Hey!!
You ladies are splashing progesterone all over the joint!!
I don't want to get splashed accidentally!! ;)

Collateral damage, aaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!

(Just jokin' with you. It's nice to hear your happiness)

Sixhorses

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